Hello all,

I have a few questions about what IT is like for everyone else. I’ve been with my current employer for a little over a year and it is my first real IT job outside of working with the general public at repair shops. I’ve been taken aback by the way our IT department is treated as well as some of the duties we have to perform and I’m curious if this is the norm in every IT job or if it is just the culture where I work.

First, I’ll start with a few general details: We support approximately 115 workstations, 19 servers, 25 printers, a phone system with 105 handsets (which is about to be fully replaced), 20-30 mobile devices and laptops, and around 30 other devices like switches, routers and firewalls. We support the above with 2 people, one of which is not allowed to go over 40 hours per week. We’re always 10-15 tickets behind the curve and we have a slew of large projects that need to be done. We spend the majority of our time keeping up with tickets so larger projects and general maintenance fall by the wayside. All of this is across 4 offices spread around 150 miles apart.

We have 20 workstations that were brand new 9 months ago. We have about 15 more workstations that are around 5 years old and the rest are from 2002-2003. So we’re piecing them together as they break, to keep a desktop on people’s desks. Our budget for new machines or parts is non-existent.

We have users that do not understand the basics of how computers work. Tickets are submitted so we can go to someone’s desk just to create a shortcut for them. We have users who have worked here for 5+ years with email being a large part of their jobs, who claim they are still learning how to use email. Or users who use a term such as “network folder” on their own, then turn around a few weeks later and tell you they have no clue what that is. We have users who blame us when they type their password wrong enough times to lockout their account. Or users who assume that we are sitting in our offices all day playing games or watching Youtube.

Managers do not show new employees how to contact the helpdesk or even tell them it exists and in many cases they don’t show them the basics of how to use the software that is required for their job. Many times we end up training them how to use the software when they come to us with “problems with their computer” and the problem is just that they haven’t been trained how to use the software for their job.

We have a very specific way to contact IT: Submit a ticket if it’s not an emergency, call our phones at our desks if it’s an emergency during normal business hours, call the pager if it’s an emergency any other time (we provide 24/7 support). People bypass this process completely and will call or text our cell phones directly. I’ve been paged several times while sitting at my desk, so I could go press “OK” on someone’s computer to activate Outlook.

We’ve tried correcting all of the problems above by educating users and teaching managers things. But within a week they either forget or decide to ignore everything we told them. We switched to using Spiceworks about a year ago and we still have people who attempt to submit tickets to the old helpdesk system, even though we’ve told them it no longer exists in company wide emails, private emails and in person countless times.

The above is a tiny portion of the things I’ve run into that surprised me. I used to work with the general public, repairing and training them on basics of using computers. I would say that I’ve easily seen people in this job who are far more clueless than any of the 1000’s of people I supported at a walk-in computer shop. Given the fact that there are very few jobs here that can be performed without a computer, I was very surprised by this.

So my questions are: Is this normal or do we have a particularly bad user-base? It really feels like we’re just babysitting a bunch of people can barely dress themselves in the morning and who seem to randomly forget something they knew days or even hours before.

Also, is a staff of two appropriate for this size of a network? The previous group had 5 people (which I agree is too many), who were all let go because they treated users poorly. To be honest, I’m starting to see why – It’s hard to be respectful to people who don’t return that respect and expect you to basically do their jobs for them. We’ve requested a third person and have been told no. But it really feels like there’s more than enough for another 40 hours per week.

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Sounds like the IT manager is not doing his job. No budget, staff walking all over IT with no set processes or procedures in place. Your boss sounds like he needs to be fired for being complacent. If he won’t do it then you should at least talk to him and ask him why. This is something that needs to be nipped in the bud years ago. The two of you should be able to manage this if other things were in place. Maybe a 3rd person jsut to do the help desk stuff.

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i didn’t even read it all, dust of your resume, find an offer, threaten to leave if a budget and additional help are not put in place, then leave when they call your bluff.

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I have to say that this is what IT has become in many companies. We do not get acknowledged for the good things we do but as soon as something goes wrong they throw you to the wolves. I handle all the networking, servers, backups, anti-virus, email, VoIP phone system, virtualization, and support the desktop team with issue they cannot resolve. We have 60 servers, almost 700 PC’s and almost the same number of VoIP phones, we have 4 facilities that are within an hour of each other. I run into the same type of people that have been working with the system for years but “play dumb”, then we have some administration that think they can read a whitepaper and all of a sudden they are an expert on the material and we who have been working on it for years know nothing.

It sucks not getting the recognition we deserve but to be honest I am not in this to get the recognition, I am in it to learn and work with technology and I love it. Yes I work after hours trying to get stuff done and I do not know what it is like to work 40 hours a week but if in the end I think I did my best that is what matters.

Good luck next year

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Honestly, you do seem to be staffed appropriately for the amount of systems you have. I’m surprised you have so many tickets that 2 people are filled up. But with 10 year old systems, it sounds like you’re doing a lot of PC repair which is wrong. The first step is getting the ticket levels down and you have to have the budget for it. It’s time to start educating the bosses on how to appropriately manage an IT department. You should be replacing about 20% of your PC’s every year and within 5 years you will have 100% turnover of machines. The problem with this is you simply can’t do it. Your business is NOT in the PC repair business, and neither are you. Every time you crack open a PC to replace something is a lost of time and resources. With newer machines you should be doing that kind of thing no more then 2 or 3 times a year.

The other thing to do is to identify the major time sucks in the tickets and fix it. If it’s user training then institute a new user orientation and sit with new users for an hour to show them basic system usage (email, voice mail, etc). The training on department specific software is a little more difficult, but honestly, the best tactic I’ve found is ignorance. Simply claim that you know how to install the application but not how to actually use it, and they’ll have to talk to their manager on how to work it. You also need to educate your manager (and it doesn’t matter if they’re IT or not) on what’s going on and make sure they have your back if a manager complains to them.

Managing IT is not easy, and IT is a cost center that is difficult to quantify it’s value–and since IT almost always falls under Accounting all they see is the big minus sign on the spreadsheet–and it takes time to properly train a Manager. I always kid with my new manager’s (and I’ve had a revolving door of them) that I just got the last one trained and now have to start over. But there’s truth behind the words and a lot of work has to be done in this regard.

Another tactic you can use, and this one will kill you but sometimes it’s necessary. It is a simple reality of IT that managers often will NOT listen to their own internal IT department but they will listen, and spend, for a consultant. Most Managed Service Providers will be looking to replace you with their own people/services–and maybe that’s appropriate for your business–though, so care has to be taken and expectations clearly stated.

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I would say your probably on the border line of average users/ under average users. I think 2 people and possibly a 3rd or even a part time 3rd should be sufficient. Run reports on the tickets and what users are submitting the most tickets. Take that to your superior and let them know why you need a 3rd. Show them in graphs and charts, they will like those.

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LOL, that actually sounds about right. I support and have supported networks about that size and a couple larger, by myself. I didn’t have restrictions on overtime so I ended up working about 80+ hours a week. You will always get users like that. Most do not want to take responsibility for their own mistakes or stupidity and will automatically blame IT for anything that goes wrong. My favorite is users who delete or move their files and then call and say it was the “NETWORK.” I took a hard stance at my last company that if tickets were not submitted I wouldn’t do it. I explained to my boss that people were going to get upset but they need to follow protocol just like they do with their own positions. I would take emergency calls but if it wasn’t an emergency and it wasn’t in the system, it would not get done, period. If they insist on working with just the two of you, I would suggest they approve overtime. Two people during regular 40 hour work weeks will probably not be able to get everything you need done, done. Projects can be in overtime like server maint, etc. Regular work week would be for the support of your users and tickets. The users that constantly conveniently “forget” how to do sometime should get back burnered after they are shown a couple times, that will make them a little more self sufficient. I’m not a hard guy, I’m super easy going but in IT and dealing with users you have to kind of take a firm stance or they will run you ragged for every little thing.

Good luck… Hope things get better for you, I’ve been there…

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Start creating knowledge base articles for your staff, when they come with a problem create a ticket and send them a link to an article. Let tickets lapse when you concentrate on projects or take turns being the first contact.

Cheers
Ben

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I think that IT becomes the melting pot for everyone’s issues, if you don’t know it ask IT. If it is a training issue, I would straight up tell the user that “This is a training issue that you need to consult with your supervisor about, I am sorry I can’t be more help. Please let me know if you have issues with your systems NOT working”. Eventually, their managers will have to figure out their own training routines. It is to facilitate the equipment to work not training the end user, if it is then you need to get a person for specifically training. Also, you need to have tiered support or hours where you can focus on projects solely and then on tickets and calls only…

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Wow. Thanks for all the input so far everyone. There’s some great tips in here. I agree that replacing our computers would be a HUGE help. The 20 new computers we received earlier this year all went to one department. That department happened to be the department that was causing the most work for us. Since they received the new workstations, we maybe get 2 or 3 tickets per week for them, for general support issues such as adding new mailboxes to Outlook.

I do think we need to take a firmer stance with the training ordeal. We need to stop training people and tell them to go to their managers for that, period. I think a lot of the issue stems from the previous IT group. Because they were outright rude to everyone around here, we are expected to hold our tongues and give off more of a “customer service” vibe. That puts us on edge and we’re not sure where the boundary lies with that.

Thanks again!

I too reckon your staffing levels are fine for the amount of users, it does appear to be a management failure here. but again, IT guys n gals get royally shafted every day, as we do tend to be the kind of people who DO like to help, I get criticised for not resolving tickets, and keeping them open to allow time for users to test fixes etc

but we SHOULD close them quick, and if fault remains, we can build up trends to show just what we need to keep an eye on - apparently :oP -

KB arcticles are a great idea, but also keep a couple of FAQ style print outs in your drawer, pass them to new starts to help ease them in

you might want to get IT dept to start monitoring the types of incident you are getting to show management you ARE being drowned in simple stuff, that can be ‘engineered’ out by user training, that can itself be completed by peer training

but until THAT day arrives, keep smiling, and enjoy the days off :o) as they are rare indeed

I’m going to chime in with Hubba Bubba, do you guys have a company news letter? We have a new one every month that goes out and everyone reads, the moment we threaten anything that the users find precious they all call me, come to my desk, ask whats going on, so on and so forth.

Secondly I’d say you need to set up some group policies that limit their access. If they want to act like sheep, then treat them like sheep, some problems will disappear at that point.

On a personal note, my boss is our CAD manager, and I’m the IT guy (networking administrator). I was hired after they went without an IT guy for 11 months, the companies IT was in shambles and they quickly gained respect for the IT department, thats why I’m here :-D.

I used to support ~200 users with 100 computers all by myself, and still get projects done, so it does sound like your users are utilizing you a bit too much!

That being said, here are a few things I have learned at my current job that might help you out:

  1. If you are able to complete all your tickets and do everything that is requested, then you aren’t being given enough work to do. It is expected that you have a constant “to do” list that slowly grows overtime. From a management perspective, this means they are getting the most bang for their buck.

  2. If you have projects that NEED to be done (i.e. have a deadline), but also have too many tickets to get to, then you need to start practicing some management skills of your own. You need to start deciding if something is “actually” critical; if it’s not, then simply keep it on the “to do” list. Talk this over with your manager and ask him what he sees as the main priority.

  3. Users inherently lose all their brainpower when they have somebody that is responsive enough to be their brain for them. If you are busy, let them know! Information is power. Tell them “it could be while before I can get to this” if it’s something non-critical. Or simply explain to them how to click the OK button themselves. Chances are if you force them to figure something out themselves then they will stop harassing you so much. On the other hand, if the users learn to think of you as a responsive wizard who obeys their every command, then they will use you as much as they can get away with.

I have been going through a similar circumstance at my current job, and this is basically what my senior has told me he has learned from 20+ years of IT. Hope it helps you like it has me!

That sounds about like normal. While a 3rd person would help, those numbers for devices aren’t way off for 2 people (at least you have 2). This mostly sounds like management issues. Some suggstions for you is try to forward where the old ticket system was to the new server, if possible. You could also throw together some self-help pages about these common issues you keep retelling every few weeks to the same people. Also, if you don’t already have it, install some remote access software on all desktops so you can remote in from your desk and take care of 10 second or 5 minute issues in that time instead of walking around the building to click on OK because they won’t do it over the phone. RealVNC is free.

If it does feel like you can’t get anything reasonable changed and you get tired of the quicksand, then look for a new job. If bad management isn’t changing, you’ll live longer by changing jobs.

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Your staffing sounds about right except the 150 miles between locations part. You definitely need some remote assistance software if you don’t already have something. Redirect

Your company should be buying 25 computers a year to keep up with the replacement cycle. Pay now or pay later, it’s the cost of doing business. If paying later, then more people are using slow computers and there will be more downtime.

I work for a healthcare company and the user population is very similar to what you’re experiencing. I’ve come to accept that certain industries just don’t attract good computer users and healthcare is one of them. My advice is to make things as simple as possible for them. Repeated training will help for some but not all. Use group policy and an intranet to completely standardize their navigation and procedures. If you’re using Office 2003, there is a custom installation wizard that will let you let you pre-configure the Outlook settings during installation.

You may be able to outsource printer support for break-even compared to what you pay for cartridges, if you haven’t already. Also remember that without the end users there wouldn’t be a need for support techs. You have job security and that’s a good thing.

The staffing thing is something that has been bothering the other IT guy and myself. We’re both capable network admins, but feel overwhelmed by the little things. While I’d like to have heard that we need 3 people for this size of network :P, it is also nice to know that we are at the appropriate size IT department as well. This allows us to focus on other things, instead of trying to get a third person.

I think my main focus (outside of tickets) going forward is going to be getting our users to be more independent for the basic things and pushing managers to take more responsibility for training and getting new users on the right path. After that I’ll start pushing for other things. But getting the constant tickets for small things, off of our plate, would free up time to take care of other projects.

Also, I think it’s interesting that Martin9700 said that repair isn’t really part of IT. I probably spend a good 20-30% of my time diagnosing and repairing hardware-related problems on our computers. Age of the workstations is definitely a factor there and maybe securing a budget to replace machines over the next year or so (to get us updated before XP support ends) would be a good next step.

Is there an “IT Manager” or are there just two of you doing IT? You could take it upon yourselves to make things better either way. Come up with strategies to make your lives easier. View IT Best Practices and Spicework Lists. Come up with a daily IT To Do, assign specific tasks to each other, set project goals and milestones with specific dates…

Skeeziix,

We don’t have an IT manager. It’s just two IT guys. Our manager is actually the person who oversees all day-to-day operations of the entire company.

Search on here for users per IT staff. You will see some people with 1 person for 1000 users, this is usually in schools though.

Talk to your supervisors about hiring an intern. They would be able to take care of your low priority type tickets or even your hardware based tickets. Interns are cheap and some will come for free, they just want the experience.