So I’m a fairly new IT guy… been at the same company for almost 8 months now and it’s my first true IT job. I don’t get paid very well and have an even shorter budget but I guess without a college degree (currently) that’s just how life goes.

I like to believe that I am fairly decent with computers and what I do not know I can quickly learn. I am truly enjoying the opportunity to learn what I can here at my job since this is the first time I’ve been on a fairly large scale network.

We currently have about 70ish computers but are growing all the time. Our purpose is to manufacture quality concrete/cement silos, augers, bins, etc… and we’re always having to find more space for new people we have to keep hiring (which means more computers).

I have thoroughly enjoyed reading stuff here on spiceworks and truly hope that eventually I will become a pretty good expert at using it as well as an expert at my current network.

My company has had a great person running the computer systems (my boss) but as of late they hired one person who was fixing computers, helped them move into the modern era of Windows SBS 2003 and an HP Proliant server (well, two of those anyway). He decided to move on and do other things and so left me this network that is very disorganized and yet never enough time to fix things because we’re growing and NO ONE here really cares for change.

My boss does agree that we have a serious problem and we need to figure something out but I honestly don’t know what to do. The most I’ve done is finally gotten a ‘master list’ of computers up on our Active Directory. Before that we had about 50 or 60 old computers that we never even had anymore on active directory AND many of the names of each computer did not fit any sort of standard so I went from one computer to another, found it’s purpose and named it accordingly and removed the computers we no longer had.

My goal now is to…
1.) Find a way to set up computers ‘on-the-fly’ where I can run some sort of script and it will install all of our usual programs with the settings predefined (UltraVNC, MS Office 2003, MAS90, Adobe Acrobat Reader 8, etc).

2.) Keep the current computers maintained, up to date and fix them so they ARE set as the ‘standard’ (Some don’t have programs like UltraVNC and those that do have different passwords and such… that’s just an example). I figure Spiceworks can help keep me maintained but I still have a handful of unknowns that I have asked for the communities help on (here’s 1: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/3469 ) and WSUS is doing a decent job keeping all the computers updated with the latest windows updates.

3.) Find ways to consolidate our data on our servers. The stuff is currently just thrown on there in a very disorganized fashion… unfortunately this is part where many people wouldn’t want to change since they know how to get to certain things a certain way but what about the new people that come? It takes them an awfully long time to figure things out.

4.) Organize our software… We have many software apps on our network and just as many disks… How do I keep track of the disks that come with our computers? Currently my boss feels we are too small to do any type of “bulk-purchasing” so we buy our computers one at a time on eBay. (Don’t get me wrong… we buy Dell Optiplex GX620 so we do okay, but… so many disks).

5.) Keep everything from manuals to licenses (and the agreements) to pretty much every piece of paper set up in an orderly fashion… so that way we can find things easily when necessary.

I’m sure there is more, but starting with that would be AWESOME… If it was possible for me to get everything above taken care of I think I’d be setting really well here. Unfotunately our budget is the smallest you can possibly imagine… especially since we’re considering moving to a different accounting software (rather than MAS90, we may move to something else).

Maybe you guys could share your experiences and advice on what I could do… even if you have advice on stuff not mentioned above, I would GLADLY listen. I am buying books when I can and reading when I can (currently am swamped with a million things in life but a couple weeks down the road may be a lot better for reading and such)… I guess I’m just asking for advice on being an IT person… the only IT person.

Thanks for the help!

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oh and one more thing… I was wondering if there was a way to be able to log network and internet activity? Something I could run a report at the end of the day and see which users have been to which websites and which files have been accessed on the network?

The internet thing would be a definite need, the network thing would be a great tool to see what people are doing to keep are network fairly slow.

Oh and while I’m asking for all these things, if anyone wants to ship me a Supersized Big Mac with a DIET coke, I’d be greatful! :stuck_out_tongue:

THANKS!

Greetings.

I apologize for the lapse in responses.

Back to business …

You have some work cut out for you … yessiree.

MReeves wrote:

… helped them move into the modern era of Windows SBS 2003 and an HP Proliant server (well, two of those anyway).

I personally do not like SBS, but so be it.

My boss does agree that we have a serious problem and we need to figure something out but I honestly don’t know what to do.

Your boss may at some time read this, so i will refrain from the blatant political tactics you could consider. I do think that subliminal messages are just dandy though. MReeves deserves a raise.

That shared, your boss is perhaps your strongest resource. I do not know your bosses role in the company, but either way, you report to him, so you need his 100% support. You need him to cover your six. Basically, build a rough plan, then take him out to lunch and lay it out there. Tell him you know what needs to take place in order for your company to increase profits, as IT can be a huge drain on funds, but it can also have a beautiful ROI. Tell him you need his full support to make things work.

Once you have his full support, keep him in the loop. Face-time. Meet every morning for five minutes or such, and make sure your boss sees value in the meetings. Also, as a united front, branch out and talk with other board members, executives, and managers. You, as the lower chap on the organizational charts, should also be out mingling with the people who actually make the company work, ie people who are not board members, executives, and managers. Build relationships, and listen.

While all of that is going on …

The most I’ve done is finally gotten a ‘master list’ of computers up on our Active Directory. Before that we had about 50 or 60 old computers that we never even had anymore on active directory AND many of the names of each computer did not fit any sort of standard so I went from one computer to another, found it’s purpose and named it accordingly and removed the computers we no longer had.

Documentation is important. You must not only be a network ninja, but you must also be a kick butt take names paper warrior, and documentation is how you keep your blades sharp and your reflexes sharper.

Keep your lists as simple as possible. You know … KISS. Spiceworks is a wonderful resource for this.

My goal now is to…

That’s the spirit! Goals!

1.) Find a way to set up computers ‘on-the-fly’ where I can run some sort of script and it will install all of our usual programs with the settings predefined (UltraVNC, MS Office 2003, MAS90, Adobe Acrobat Reader 8, etc).

I am going to skip this one for now. Perhaps someone else will comment on it. I personally believe it is a secondary issue which may be clearer once you handle some other issues. See #4.

2.) Keep the current computers maintained, up to date and fix them so they ARE set as the ‘standard’ (Some don’t have programs like UltraVNC and those that do have different passwords and such… that’s just an example). I figure Spiceworks can help keep me maintained but I still have a handful of unknowns that I have asked for the communities help on (here’s 1: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/3469 ) and WSUS is doing a decent job keeping all the computers updated with the latest windows updates.

I like the tie-in to the other thread. :wink:

As to #2, i will skip this one as well, as it too seems secondary. See #4.

3.) Find ways to consolidate our data on our servers. The stuff is currently just thrown on there in a very disorganized fashion… unfortunately this is part where many people wouldn’t want to change since they know how to get to certain things a certain way but what about the new people that come? It takes them an awfully long time to figure things out.

Of the items you listed as Goals, i believe #3 is a solid place to plant your flag and fight.

Before you do anything that may cause ripples to go outside of your trusted circle, which by the way is made up of you and your boss, CYA. Actually, always CYA, even when dealing within your trusted circle. (PS, secret handshakes are cool, and MReeves deserves a bonus.) CYA … Cover Your Assets … sorta. Anyhow, before you do something that the rest of the company will see or feel, make sure you are prepared. In regards to #3, this means make sure your Active Directory entries for users, groups, and such is clean and efficient.

Log into your server, and make sure that the users are all properly configured. Worry about tightening security and such later, just make sure that things are organized well inside of Active Directory. Also, make sure that you are comfortable in AD. You do not need to be a Group Policy guru, just know that it exists and perhaps even how to look at GP settings. Nothing fancy. KISS.

Open the Active Directory Users and Computers mmc and press F1. Then, read.

An example of a basic KISS layout:

OU: Divisions
OU: Divisions: IT
OU: Divisions: Executive
OU: Divisions: Sales
OU: Divisions: Marketing
OU: Divisions: Financial
OU: Divisions: Production

OU: Groups
Make a group for each Division that has it’s own OU, as above. Later you can create a “general employee” type of group, but it’s not mission critical at this point.

Move the Active Directory User accounts to their respective Division OU. So, your account should be in the IT Division OU. Your boss should be in the Executive Division OU, unless he is just an IT Manager, or such. Executives are CEOs, CFOs, and so forth. Have a company organization chart handy. Also, in smaller companies, sometimes roles carry into multiple divisions, and in such cases, it may be necessary to create a unique group for their role, but try to avoid this when possible. Also, just because someone is in the Financial group/division, does not mean they are entitled to full rights in that group, so you may want additional groups for each divisions management. Before you solidify anything, perhaps draw it out on paper, and keep in mind that data storage may somewhat mimic the AD structure. Try to keep it as KISS as possible, but at the same time, cover all your bases and have reinforcements just over the embankment.

Once your AD structure is sound, then determine where you can store your corporate data. By this time, you will probably have a better understanding of how your company is divided, and applying that knowledge to the data then becomes the issue to take down, which really should not be too much work, considering how deep you will be into the matter by that point. Basically, start with a generic mimic of the AD Divisions structure, and branch out accordingly. For managers and such use the specific management groups mentioned earlier on selected folder hierarchies.

Share just the basic “root” folder, to minimize shares to manage. Map drives to specific departments/divisions.

Set aside a location, on the network, for software applications. Be very careful as to who has access to this folder. At times, it may be acceptable to give read-only rights out to general users, but do so sparingly. See #1, #2, and #4.

4.) Organize our software… We have many software apps on our network and just as many disks… How do I keep track of the disks that come with our computers? Currently my boss feels we are too small to do any type of “bulk-purchasing” so we buy our computers one at a time on eBay. (Don’t get me wrong… we buy Dell Optiplex GX620 so we do okay, but… so many disks).

Once you place as much software as possible onto the network, you will basically just need a CD folder (physical) to store CDs. Access from then on should be through the network.

If you want to keep discs physically organized with specific machines, you are somewhat setting yourself up for a lot of work. But we have clients that demand this, and in such cases, we recommend clear plastic folders labeled with the device name and/or serial number/inventory ID. Any hardcopy stuff that has to do with a specific device goes into that devices folder. I recommend they be clear, because it is easier to go through them that way, especially when trying to read discs and the likes. You could try to document everything, but i think you should save that for when you have an assistant.

5.) Keep everything from manuals to licenses (and the agreements) to pretty much every piece of paper set up in an orderly fashion… so that way we can find things easily when necessary.

First, compile it all into one location, room, box, pile, corner, etc… After you handle #3 or such, then perhaps unshuffle this deck.

MReeves deserves a raise.

http://community.spiceworks.com/Projects/wiki_page/show/Reclaim_The_Network

Why do you dislike SBS?

Incorporate what you say here and utilize that along with what is mentioned in the project outline…?

That’s what I intend to do anyway… I think I’ll come up with an outline before changing even an OU… FIgure it out and then talk to people around the office, explain to them the changes that I could make that affects them. Then talk it over with my boss and explain that I’ve done enough research and this is the steps I think we need to take.

I want to plan out the entire thing… from start to finish… That way I can see what the network will be like when I’m completed. Maybe my boss will agree… maybe he won’t. We’ll see…

When I get the project plan done I will show you and maybe you could help me say yay or nay… the more help and support I get from this, the better.

STILL wondering if there was an easy way or a good program I can use to run ‘daily reports’ or something similar about network and internet activity.

Thanks!!

You want to know how bad it is around here? I was just told by someone that we have a wireless network that is currently unsecured. I’m thinking, okay… now let’s see here… been here 8 months and haven’t needed to deal with our wireless network yet…

SO I ask my boss where our wireless routers and any other routers and he BELIEVES there are three… so I go and shut off all three to see if I can see them and low and behold, I still see wireless connections on my laptop.

My question is… how can I scan for routers? I thought what I found using spiceworks was it but when I go to the IP address to try and access them it will not pop up with a username/password like usual… I’ve gone through 1 - 255 and scanned and found 2 that are named npi38d87f and npi6e3279; one named UNKNOWN, and three that are “N/A” (This is according to another program)… I have no idea what any of these devices are… whether they are routers or something completely different… Tried to type in the IP address and see if I can access the control panel but none of them (but ONE of the N/As), will allow me to load.

Sooo frustrating.

Greetings.

If it is not one thing it is another … :: sighs :: … sorry for the delay again.

MReeves wrote:

Why do you dislike SBS?

Before i answer this, please remember that your predecessor chose SBS, not you.

I am not keen on critical systems which assume so many things for me, without my knowing, without my ability to control them. I also like to minimize processes, configurations, and the likes, and SBS seems to be a super bloated Microsoft Operating System, which is saying a lot.

SBS is a solution geared more towards non-IT professionals, by which i mean, it is intended to be maintained by people whose backgrounds are perhaps not computers.

… my opinion.

Incorporate what you say here and utilize that along with what is mentioned in the project outline…?

Yes.

That’s what I intend to do anyway… I think I’ll come up with an outline before changing even an OU… FIgure it out and then talk to people around the office, explain to them the changes that I could make that affects them. Then talk it over with my boss and explain that I’ve done enough research and this is the steps I think we need to take.

Eek! Be careful to not get your peers and the general workforce prepped for change without your boss having a clue! As i mentioned in my earlier post, you should FIRST go to your boss, and get him on your side, THEN consider talking with everyone else. If you bypass your boss, and talk with the masses, then you are unnecessarily risking your name. By which i mean, if your boss blows you out of the water, AFTER you have already talked with the masses, then the masses will be less apt to believe you next time you want to discuss how to save the universe, and your boss will probably be ticked by you making him/her look like the evil person who wants to stagnate the company.

No, as i suggested above, first do your homework. Then, get your boss on-board. Then do more homework. Then talk with other managers and such. Which reminds me, you know the political environment there better than i do, but some managers may take offense if you are pestering, or wasting their employees time with silly tech questions. So, it may be good to work your way down the food-chain. This by no means does NOT mean do not mingle with everyone. In fact, DO mingle with everyone, just do not get the masses ready for a revolution until you are prepared to fight.

Sun Tzu says to choose the battle ground … amongst other things.

I want to plan out the entire thing… from start to finish… That way I can see what the network will be like when I’m completed. Maybe my boss will agree… maybe he won’t. We’ll see…

This is a great idea, but do not get too detail oriented during the first phase of planning. Actually, try to keep the first phase of planning a bit less magnified, uh, more macro, um, as an outline based on solid knowledge.

When I get the project plan done I will show you and maybe you could help me say yay or nay… the more help and support I get from this, the better.

Definitely! Although, i do suggest you make sure this will not be a violation of any of your company policies. Perhaps check with HR and/or your boss (which may be weird if you haven’t talked with him/her yet).

STILL wondering if there was an easy way or a good program I can use to run ‘daily reports’ or something similar about network and internet activity.

What kind of router/switch do you have at your gateway?

You want to know how bad it is around here? I was just told by someone that we have a wireless network that is currently unsecured. I’m thinking, okay… now let’s see here… been here 8 months and haven’t needed to deal with our wireless network yet…

SO I ask my boss where our wireless routers and any other routers and he BELIEVES there are three… so I go and shut off all three to see if I can see them and low and behold, I still see wireless connections on my laptop.

Part of the Reclaim the Network is “Establish the Perimeter” …

http://community.spiceworks.com/Projects/wiki_page/show/RTN_Establish_The_Perimeter

My question is… how can I scan for routers? I thought what I found using spiceworks was it but when I go to the IP address to try and access them it will not pop up with a username/password like usual… I’ve gone through 1 - 255 and scanned and found 2 that are named npi38d87f and npi6e3279; one named UNKNOWN, and three that are “N/A” (This is according to another program)… I have no idea what any of these devices are… whether they are routers or something completely different… Tried to type in the IP address and see if I can access the control panel but none of them (but ONE of the N/As), will allow me to load.

I HIGHLY suggest you physically locate these devices first. Then, put a test box inside their networks and sniff around. Assuming all is fine and dandy, i then suggest you restore these devices (assuming linksys, d-link and such) back to factory defaults, then lock them down as tight as YOU can.

Sooo frustrating.

Indeed.

Whoa… it’s okay, I’m pretty good at dealing with my company politics and wouldn’t go ahead and do anything wrong…


If it is not one thing it is another … :: sighs :: … sorry for the delay again.

---->I’m getting help from this and the last I checked I didn’t pay you anything… IN fact, if you never said anything again I wouldn’t really have a right to be upset or anything… I’m just grateful for the help you’ve currently provided… thank you!


MReeves wrote:

Why do you dislike SBS?

Before i answer this, please remember that your predecessor chose SBS, not you.

I am not keen on critical systems which assume so many things for me, without my knowing, without my ability to control them. I also like to minimize processes, configurations, and the likes, and SBS seems to be a super bloated Microsoft Operating System, which is saying a lot.

SBS is a solution geared more towards non-IT professionals, by which i mean, it is intended to be maintained by people whose backgrounds are perhaps not computers.

… my opinion.

---->Ahh, explains why it fits me perfectly…? :stuck_out_tongue: Yea I sort of understand what you mean and hopefully one day I’ll understand even more.


Incorporate what you say here and utilize that along with what is mentioned in the project outline…?

Yes.

---->Simple enough…


That’s what I intend to do anyway… I think I’ll come up with an outline before changing even an OU… FIgure it out and then talk to people around the office, explain to them the changes that I could make that affects them. Then talk it over with my boss and explain that I’ve done enough research and this is the steps I think we need to take.

Eek! Be careful to not get your peers and the general workforce prepped for change without your boss having a clue! As i mentioned in my earlier post, you should FIRST go to your boss, and get him on your side, THEN consider talking with everyone else. If you bypass your boss, and talk with the masses, then you are unnecessarily risking your name. By which i mean, if your boss blows you out of the water, AFTER you have already talked with the masses, then the masses will be less apt to believe you next time you want to discuss how to save the universe, and your boss will probably be ticked by you making him/her look like the evil person who wants to stagnate the company.

---->As mentioned above, don’t worry! I probably said that wrong… I didn’t intend to tell anyone what I was doing… in fact most of them have gotten used to things not happening around here thanks to people before me. My intention is only to talk to people, asking them what they dislike about their current way of doing things… I’m pretty good at talking casually if not with everyone, then at least a handful of people from each department. For example I have this one guy in our Service department who is more than willing to just talk and talk, knowing that the people above us will never want to get it done. While talking with these people and doing online and book-reading research, I can come up with a (not too sophisticated, but…) detailed plan of things we can do. You have to understand that the final “Plan” i have to hand in and discuss with my boss must be air-tight, no hiccups sort of thing. He seems to love asking question after question but I completely understand he is just trying to fully grasp how things are going to work and what they’re going to produce… This detailed plan needs to say what I want to do, how I plan to do it, what the short term and long term affects will be… pretty much everything conceivable.


I want to plan out the entire thing… from start to finish… That way I can see what the network will be like when I’m completed. Maybe my boss will agree… maybe he won’t. We’ll see…

This is a great idea, but do not get too detail oriented during the first phase of planning. Actually, try to keep the first phase of planning a bit less magnified, uh, more macro, um, as an outline based on solid knowledge.

---->Not going to get too-detailed at least the first ‘draft’ of my plan… but when I present it to my boss? Yea, gonna have to be pretty damn sparkly with details.


When I get the project plan done I will show you and maybe you could help me say yay or nay… the more help and support I get from this, the better.

Definitely! Although, i do suggest you make sure this will not be a violation of any of your company policies. Perhaps check with HR and/or your boss (which may be weird if you haven’t talked with him/her yet).

---->Sorry… miscommunication there too. Wasn’t planning on giving you our secret details… planned on changing different things but knowing they would still have the same affect. No worries again, not going to violate any limited company policy… yea… ours is fairly limited, but then again we are employee owned which might have something to do with it.


STILL wondering if there was an easy way or a good program I can use to run ‘daily reports’ or something similar about network and internet activity.

What kind of router/switch do you have at your gateway?

---->Made a new post since it seemed like the logical thing to do: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/3992


You want to know how bad it is around here? I was just told by someone that we have a wireless network that is currently unsecured. I’m thinking, okay… now let’s see here… been here 8 months and haven’t needed to deal with our wireless network yet…

SO I ask my boss where our wireless routers and any other routers and he BELIEVES there are three… so I go and shut off all three to see if I can see them and low and behold, I still see wireless connections on my laptop.

Part of the Reclaim the Network is “Establish the Perimeter” …

http://community.spiceworks.com/Projects/wiki_page/show/RTN_Establish_The_Perimeter

---->Will make sure to read the whole damn project!


My question is… how can I scan for routers? I thought what I found using spiceworks was it but when I go to the IP address to try and access them it will not pop up with a username/password like usual… I’ve gone through 1 - 255 and scanned and found 2 that are named npi38d87f and npi6e3279; one named UNKNOWN, and three that are “N/A” (This is according to another program)… I have no idea what any of these devices are… whether they are routers or something completely different… Tried to type in the IP address and see if I can access the control panel but none of them (but ONE of the N/As), will allow me to load.

I HIGHLY suggest you physically locate these devices first. Then, put a test box inside their networks and sniff around. Assuming all is fine and dandy, i then suggest you restore these devices (assuming linksys, d-link and such) back to factory defaults, then lock them down as tight as YOU can.

I’m pretty sure we only have three and will assume that until they are all set up and as secured as possible when I get done… at that point I will go around one more time and check to see if we have any other wireless links floating around… This all has been mentioned in the thread I posted above


Sooo frustrating.

Indeed.

---->Glad someone agrees with me… my coworkers think I have it easy.

Greetings.

Where are you at in this?

Technically I have about three jobs… IT guy, Phone Guy and assistant-Accountant (since they don’t have enough people) so I haven’t had a chance to get back in this… besides these three weeks (i believe I mentioned before), are very hectic for me. I have just one more week to go and then normalcy will return.

Trust me when I say I will keep you updated with this. I have the feeling that for the moment the best thing I can do to give back to this community is to return with my experience. Hopefully someone else will have a network as tangled as mine and will read this and figure out how to deal with their network.

It may be a couple of days for the next post on this but I will do it when i can.

Greetings.

MReeves, i am aware of your other threads, but i am curious to know the status of this particular thread/project(s).

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Well, I’m just now able to get things down. A few weeks ago my boss and a representative from the engineering side of the building and I had a meeting to discuss ways to organize. one of them is to actually move all the user accounts over to one server, because currently they are split between two.

After that I am going to make a more detailed plan of what to begin doing. I’m going to organized the OUs in Active Directory as our business is set up and from there figure out how to continue cleaning up our file system on our network. (that’s just the first part of the plan… I probably won’t do anything until I’ve got it entirely written out).

While I’m in the midst of doing that, I created the following thread to see what everyone’s thoughts were on organizing a network.
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/4358

I was hoping to get some responses to help inspire me to build a strong, solid plan…

Anyway, it’ll take a good week to move all the users over. I do not want to move all their files over in one night and hope that it works out okay and then the next day get 30 phone calls when people freak that they can’t get to their P: drives, and besides my boss told me to do them only a handful a night. So after this task is accomplished I’ll build that plan and post it here (removing and security-risks of course).

Greetings.

Seems like you are on the right track. Please keep this thread posted … no pun intended.

1.) Find a way to set up computers ‘on-the-fly’ where I can run some sort of script and it will install all of our usual programs with the settings predefined (UltraVNC, MS Office 2003, MAS90, Adobe Acrobat Reader 8, etc).

Since Odom left this one open, we use an imaging package called Desktop Authority Image Center from ScriptLogic. It lets us deploy a fully configured CAD workstation in a less than two hours. It used to take us a day and a half. There are other options available, but Image Center is very inexpensive and easy to use. (Keeping with the theme - MReeves deserves a raise.)

Looks good but unfortunately we are very -very- limited on budget and to add another license to any computers now or even in the future would just scare the accounting department. I will keep it in my list of products to look through though just in case.

Small update to project… This thing is going to be a long time coming.

First of all realize I am going to be helping implement a new software application into our systems in the next few months and help move our current accounting software over into this new system. So I’m hoping while I’m doing this I can try to convince my boss that now would be an excellent time to do some major modifications to our network for efficiency reasons.

Anyway… as I said… this is going to take a very long time.

1.) I have already switched over all the user profile folders to a single folder. Before that we had part of our users on one network and part on the other, but we felt it would be best to have the user folders in the same area.

2.) I’m going to do a complete network status. I have to be honest that in 8 months I have found not only myself, but absolutely no one here knows everything about our entire systems. I’m going to compile data I get from everyone and from running Spiceworks and everything else I can find and put a folder in my network administration department folder called “Network Status” and in there will contain files and documentation about everything I could come up with.

3.) I will then take that network status and find ways to make it easy to keep it all in one place, easily accessible (probably doing my best to use exclusively spiceworks), and then when changes are made to a part of our network, either find a way to automate most of it or an easy way for myself or anyone else playing the role of network administrator to log in it our notes… that way we will never again have to take such a daring challenge as to talk to many people and do many hours of research on our own network.

4.) I will analyze all the network status data I found. I will look at our weak spots in the network and add it to my plan to renovate. I will then create ‘sub-plans’ that will help those weak spots work well and play nice with the rest of the network. Those ‘sub-plans’ will then be implemented into a major plan that will have a logical order in which things need to be fixed, how to fix them and when during the day/night/weekends to get them fixed. Also that plan will include backup plans in case any of the changes get rejected by the network and we have major problems with productivity.

Who knows, I may find that we have very few weak spots… but mostly the big problem I have is that everything is scattered. So I figure that my first plan should be to say, “I know everything single inch of our current network status.” and I will even want to have it all documented in case I get in a very unfortunate accident and can no longer talk or write… or if i just forget some stuff, which seems more likely :wink:

But yes, that’s the current way my “Keeping Things ‘Organized’” project is going.

I came from an NT4.0 / migrated to 2k3, multidomain, 4 diff subnet, 3 remote office, financial institution to a 40 user one stop industrial shop with SBS.

At first, i was rather frustrated and confused of the all in one package, but now, not so bad.

Uninstall SharePoint… quit doing tasks from the Server Administration, and you’ve basically got a 2k3 domain controller. OK yah, Exch and Sql on same box not ideal, but for the PRICE, its all this shop needs! SO MANY ms apps and 3rd party administration apps are so cheap for SBS (TrendMicro for one was a huge “discount”).

The buzz is consolidation, and SBS sure did that. And R2 install was even better. So coming from the knowledge of a dedicated 20 server one app per server farm, this change was very relaxing, and 3 yrs here now, and only problem has been one drive in the raid failed. I have more problems on our second 2k3 standard server. (2yrs old)

So its not for non-IT professionals as Odom stated…(possible but not preferrable)
its a relaxing summer vacation for IT Professionals!

Haha… I have returned to bring an update, which I’m sure some who have been watching this were not expecting!

I have been swamped the past month with other stuff that I haven’t had time to even come up with a plan, but today I finally unburied myself and have come up with a (large) list of departments that I think would be great to be used as our OUs for Active Directory… If you think this is a little much, let me know; but the list is as follows:

Network Administration
Service
Sales
Accounting
Shipping
Parts
Production
Engineering
Purchasing
HR
Reception
Administration (the ‘big’ guys)
Electrical
Environmental
Maintenance
Shop (anything not mentioned above)


now here’s an update to what I said previously:

1.) I have already switched over all the user profile folders to a single folder. Before that we had part of our users on one network and part on the other, but we felt it would be best to have the user folders in the same area.
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The idea now is to use the list above and move all users and computers to their respected areas. Then have those OU’s have the group policies they need, since some groups are different than others… also set up the login scripts to be the same throughout unless special consideration is necessary.

2.) I’m going to do a complete network status. I have to be honest that in 8 months I have found not only myself, but absolutely no one here knows everything about our entire systems. I’m going to compile data I get from everyone and from running Spiceworks and everything else I can find and put a folder in my network administration department folder called “Network Status” and in there will contain files and documentation about everything I could come up with.
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I did not create the folder, however I have now compiled everything I need about my network. I have an excel file that I am using to compare what is in Active Directory (My completely up to date area for computers), Spiceworks, WSUS and AVG.

3.) I will then take that network status and find ways to make it easy to keep it all in one place, easily accessible (probably doing my best to use exclusively spiceworks), and then when changes are made to a part of our network, either find a way to automate most of it or an easy way for myself or anyone else playing the role of network administrator to log in it our notes… that way we will never again have to take such a daring challenge as to talk to many people and do many hours of research on our own network.
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As mentioned above, I have an excel sheet that will do this!

4.) I will analyze all the network status data I found. I will look at our weak spots in the network and add it to my plan to renovate. I will then create ‘sub-plans’ that will help those weak spots work well and play nice with the rest of the network. Those ‘sub-plans’ will then be implemented into a major plan that will have a logical order in which things need to be fixed, how to fix them and when during the day/night/weekends to get them fixed. Also that plan will include backup plans in case any of the changes get rejected by the network and we have major problems with productivity.
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Due to the new software we are getting, I am slightly putting this part off. I have created an inventory for my boss so he and I can decide how to match our current systems with any potential software. So this plan will be separate from my plan to reclaim the network.


Any questions or comments? Feel free to let me know them!! I’m going to look at this OU idea and find a good easy way to organize our current login scripts.

Greetings.

This is awesome!

Just to be picky, a lot of our clients use the term “administration” to describe such positions as Administrative Assistance, Reception, and other such grunts. They then use the term “Executives” or “Board” to describe the C-Class folks. Other times “Executives” and “Board” are two different groups, usually with the Board having token accounts on the network, which literally are disabled.

hmm, you’re right… executive sounds better. I simply took the role of “Admin” because the previous IT guy had set up a computer named “ADMIN-Initials” for the COO.

QUESTION: i have implemented the OU’s into the users AD, however no one is in them yet because I was curious…

I have a group policy that I want to give everyone BUT the engineer group. Is there a way (without sticking it in all the OU’s) to make that effective for all the OU’s but engineering?

Thanks!