Looking for a new UPS or rack mounted backup solution

fultonmiller · 2014-07-08T17:41:35.000Z

Hey guys,

As the title says, looking for recommendations on a new ups for our small business. Looking to put our critical hardware on it. (i.e switch, router, gateway, pbx…etc) Just mostly looking for recommendations on trusted brands. We mostly have APC ups systems now, but those are the smaller ones just used for smaller systems. I will also need to do some simple power calculations to find the draw…

Thanks!

melissa-tripp-lite · 2014-07-08T17:46:35.000Z

Hey there!

I can certainly help out with this. In order to streamline the options I have a few questions:

What are the makes and models of products planning to be connected to the UPS system? (I can help find the draw.)

In the event of a power outage, how much runtime is needed?

Will the UPS system need to support room for growth? How much of a percentage?

What electrical (voltage and amps) and wall outlet is in the room for the UPS system?

Will this info I’ll be able to provide a solution.

mike-eaton · 2014-07-08T17:48:23.000Z

Here’s a helpful post from Limey to check out as well as a similar post on finding a rack UPS . If you can provide some additional specifics on the wattage of the equipment you want to protect and the runtime requirements, that will help the community give you some specific recommendations.

michaelmcmorris4688 · 2014-07-08T18:12:52.000Z

Had good luck with APC and Emerson.

john4120 · 2014-07-08T18:25:06.000Z

I have Eaton 9130s and really enjoy them. I used to have other brands but after seeing what can be done with these I have found a new UPS company.

dorian-cyberpower · 2014-07-09T12:05:26.000Z

And here’s another post that might help. Also consider looking at CyberPower UPS systems . We can help you do a power audit and walk you through the process. Devil is in the details.

@CyberPower_USA_Canada

fultonmiller · 2014-07-09T17:53:47.000Z

thanks everyone for the helpful info. I should be able to find something within all these links.

I would say uptime would at least need to be 30 minutes to half an hour. We have a UPS in there that has some of our stuff, but i believe it is being overloaded, so I need to add another.

Im mainly looking to get our core networking gear plus a honeywell dvr and PC on this particular supply.

In this case that is:

Netgear CG3000dcr 18w

Ubiquiti Edge Router 35w

Linksys SGE2010P Switch, couldnt find much power info other than total PoE draw at 360w. So maybe 400-420w?

Buffalo TeraStation couldnt find consumption info

Honeywell HRDP DVR 60w

Thanks all, much appreciated!

melissa-tripp-lite · 2014-07-09T18:05:41.000Z

The draw for everything is about 783 watts (the Terastation I sized at about 250 watts).

For something like this I would lead with the SU1500RTXL2Ua:

http://www.tripplite.com/on-line-double-conversion-ups-system-1.5kva-2u-rack-tower-100v-110v-120v-nema-outlets~SU1500RTXL2UA/

This will support up to 1500 va/1200 watts and at 783 watts the unit alone will provide about 9 minutes runtime,

If more runtime is needed additional batteries can be added–something like the BP48V24-2U attached will being the runtime to about 53 minutes:

http://www.tripplite.com/sku/BP48V242U/

Lastly, for remote monitoring include the SNMPWEBCARD:

http://www.tripplite.com/remote-snmp-web-card-telnet~SNMPWEBCARD/

This will allow for remote monitoring via SNMP platform, web browser, or telnet.

To recap the following has been suggested:

Qty. 1 SU1500RTXL2Ua

Qty. 1 BP48V24-2U

Qty. 1 SNMPWEBCARD

Let me know if you have any questions or we need to revisit.

mike-eaton · 2014-07-09T18:57:04.000Z

The Eaton 5PX will give you about 39 minutes if you go with the 5PX1000RT and 1 extended battery module (10 minutes without the battery module). UPS and battery are 2U high each and come with a 3-year warranty. ENERGY STAR qualified and 4-post rail kit is included. Add the web card for connectivity. We can hook you up with a formal reseller quote if you want.

John mentioned the Eaton 9130 which has some pretty robust voltage regulation (aka online UPS). PW9130L1000R with a battery module will give you about the same runtime as the 5PX. Same web card.

joerg-buffalo-europe · 2014-07-10T05:28:47.000Z

Hi Fulton

what TeraStation are you using? If you are not using a TeraStation 7120r please calculate 60 Watt power consumption for the UPS calculation. 60 Watt is more than a TeraStation would use under full load but you are save with this value.

If you are using TeraStation 7000 series please calcuate 150 Watt power consumption for the unit itself (this one is equipped with two power supplies).

Boot up power consumption would be 80 Watt during HDD spin up for the normal TeraStations and 250 Watt for the TeraStation 7000. If you have TeraStation 8-Bay model please use 100 Watt bootup power consumption.

These values are estimated but best for calculating the UPS size.

dorian-cyberpower · 2014-07-10T12:34:47.000Z

If you take a look at CyberPower, the PR1000LCDRTXL2U will get you about 9 min of runtime at 800W load or 43 min if you add on an external battery pack ( BP48V45ART2 ). All CyberPower UPS systems are covered by a 3-year warranty that includes the batteries, same for the external battery pack. Power management software is free and you can add a remote management card also. That allows you to set up event notifications from the UPS.