Hell All,<\/p>\n
I need some help as I am unsure of the direction to take. I recently accepted an IT Manager role at a small company. The day before my start date, the IT Director passed away. Unfortunately, the company and the IT Director did not maintain any records of passwords for services. They have three servers with company programs and data, as well as firewalls used in the office that I can’t access for backup or support. If this hardware were to fail today, they would be in a difficult situation.<\/p>\n
Does anyone have recommendations for service companies that can assist with this type of issue, or suggestions for a course of action? I have never been in a position like this before.<\/p>\n
Thank you!<\/p>","upvoteCount":15,"answerCount":38,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T18:48:25.776Z","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"chadklang","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/chadklang"},"suggestedAnswer":[{"@type":"Answer","text":"
Hell All,<\/p>\n
I need some help as I am unsure of the direction to take. I recently accepted an IT Manager role at a small company. The day before my start date, the IT Director passed away. Unfortunately, the company and the IT Director did not maintain any records of passwords for services. They have three servers with company programs and data, as well as firewalls used in the office that I can’t access for backup or support. If this hardware were to fail today, they would be in a difficult situation.<\/p>\n
Does anyone have recommendations for service companies that can assist with this type of issue, or suggestions for a course of action? I have never been in a position like this before.<\/p>\n
Thank you!<\/p>","upvoteCount":15,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T18:48:25.859Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/1","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"chadklang","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/chadklang"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":"
You might be a little bit f–ked, my dude.<\/p>","upvoteCount":10,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T19:53:11.729Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/2","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"sersean","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/sersean"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":"
You can easily reset the admin passwords on those machines if you have physical access to them. Just need more info to provide a method. Are these running Windows Server, Linux,… Unix v8?<\/p>","upvoteCount":10,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T19:56:19.478Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/3","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"doughnutdestroyer","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/doughnutdestroyer"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":"
What is your IT level of expertise and knowledge? I only ask because you’ve either walked into a disastrous situation or a golden platter for your career.<\/p>\n
If you aren’t quite “there” yet in IT, then you’re gonna have a really rough time navigating through this one but everything you mentioned is entirely fixable and doable.<\/p>\n
If you’ve got IT chops though, you just waltzed into a layup “IT Director” position if you handle this one well.<\/p>\n
To answer your question though, you REALLY<\/strong> should be starting with the vendors/manufacturers of the equipment or software you’re working with. You will obviously hit some hurdles but your situation is not unique and there have been countless times IT workers have been in a position similar where there wasn’t documentation and the folks who knew how to get into things were no longer with the company for one reason or another. I’ve been there, on a much smaller scale - in my case it was just a chunk of our infrastructure that I was dealing with when our senior sysadmin at a previous job decided to up and leave one day and ghost everybody. I ended up getting back into everything, documenting everything, etc… largely in part due to working with the vendors of the equipment and software.<\/p>\n The internet is a big place too - if you spend enough time looking, you will eventually find somebody who needed to get into the same hardware/software online and how they did it.<\/p>\n So I’d recommend reaching out to the vendors first. Then post specific questions in places like Spiceworks, Reddit, Discord, etc…<\/p>\n You could<\/em> work with a 3rd party MSP or contractor but inevitably they will be doing the same thing you’d be doing, if you choose to do it.<\/p>","upvoteCount":23,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T20:06:07.860Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/4","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"dimforest","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/dimforest"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" Oh and one more thing: you may hit a point with certain hardware or software where simply “starting over” makes the most sense. Will it suck? Maybe. But then you also have the added benefit of knowing the configuration and setup inside out. Then YOU become the subject-matter-expert on your own network instead of the guy who had to reverse engineer it and try to figure out the thought processes of the previous Director.<\/p>\n So don’t be afraid of the old “nuke and pave” method, in places where it makes sense.<\/p>","upvoteCount":19,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T20:09:16.031Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/5","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"dimforest","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/dimforest"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" I’m going to touch on something of massive importance that I don’t think has been mentioned here. Once you go re-establish access, you need to set up some sort of continuity of operations plan.<\/p>\n You’ve got all the passwords. Great. What happens if you get hit by a bus tomorrow? Who takes over? Do they have access to the passwords? Who’s your second if you fall ill? Do they have access to the passwords?<\/p>\n Obviously knowledge of the passwords should be restricted, but you can clearly see why more than one person needs to be able to get into stuff.<\/p>","upvoteCount":12,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T20:12:54.775Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/6","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"sersean","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/sersean"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" That’s a “key person” problem right there. Your mission going forward is not to repeat that mistake.<\/p>\n Go through the former managers PC, may be something like an excel spreadsheet with them. Look in drawers etc if they are written down. For the firewalls/switches, try the default credentials. You never know.<\/p>","upvoteCount":13,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T22:57:44.850Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/7","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"PatrickFarrell","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/PatrickFarrell"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" Thank you all for your responses. In terms of my technical skills, they are a bit rusty since I haven’t been in a technical role for some time; I have been more in leadership positions where I wasn’t configuring or managing hardware and software. We have three Dell servers running Windows Server 2012 and small SonicWall TZ400 firewalls, but there is zero documentation. I have tried to dig through things but haven’t found much. I’m uncertain about what Dell might be able to do to assist me in this situation. I could call an MSP, but I’m not sure what they could do differently, especially since I still don’t have access to the hardware containing all the company data.<\/p>","upvoteCount":4,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T23:47:19.460Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/8","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"chadklang","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/chadklang"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" Its windows server 2012<\/p>","upvoteCount":1,"datePublished":"2024-08-08T23:48:15.267Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/9","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"chadklang","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/chadklang"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" I agree this could be a huge layup to an upgraded job. then get a 2nd to cross train in your job.<\/p>","upvoteCount":7,"datePublished":"2024-08-09T01:02:01.077Z","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/t/urgent-it-disaster/1104270/10","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"shnool","url":"https://community.spiceworks.com/u/shnool"}},{"@type":"Answer","text":" Sounds like the former IT Director was just the person in the office who happened to know the most about computers, in other words enough to make things work enough for what they needed. That’s not picking on them, that’s just how it is at a lot of smaller shops.<\/p>\n Are these servers in workgroup mode or domain joined? If they are in workgroup mode, then resetting the password and getting in will not be a problem.<\/p>\n Take your pick of methods here:<\/p>\n
\nMy $0.02 is you should consider are burn down and build back.
\nthen you document the he77 out of everything.<\/p>\n