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On 4 May 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Coupled magazine. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Cleanup

This article seriously looks like it was written by a four year old/action junkie. it needs to be cleaned up. i've already done a lot of cleaning up myself. 66.59.49.88 (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tiredcleangate3 edits

You cannot piggyback non-referenced info onto an established reference. The source (http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw-8.html) that you provided in the comment section of your edit does not support your claims. It make no mention of the SIG 550 magazine and absolutely no mention whatsoever of the HK36.

Also, even if it did, the information is irrelevant to this article. As the SIG and HK magazines are only presented as examples of the jungle style magazines. If you must give SIG credit for the HK magazine design then please do so on the HK36 page with accurate references that support your claims.--RAF910 (talk) 16:06, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RAF910 edits

To quote the opening paragraph, "This article seriously looks like it was written by a four year old/action junkie. it needs to be cleaned up. i've already done a lot of cleaning up myself. 66.59.49.88 (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)"[reply]
It still does, the phrasing is cumbersome and amateur, eg. jamming instead of stoppage.
To say the two magazine types are only presented as examples is disingenuous, as the Swiss Arms Stgw 90 & H&K G36 are presently the only mainstream issue weapons with this clip-together capability as standard, the phrase 'some firearms manufacturers' would generally imply more than two.
It is usual in these cases to list in chronological order, to do otherwise would imply a different precedence. The source (http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw-8.html) gives the pecuniary advance for pilot production along with the then projected delivery date, which was in fact kept. The wiki pages for both wpns G36 also give the respective production dates.
Raising a prone profile is a major disadvantage and common knowledge among soldiers. Deleting it offhandedly might tend to indicate a lack of experience in this field, which while not necessarily your fault, I would respectfully suggest that consideration to the knowledge and experience of others should be shown. Admittedly this is not always easy to gauge but I attempt to do so myself.

Field trials & endurance tests (http://www.biggerhammer.net/sigamt/550/550techinspection/) of the Swiss wpn commenced in 1981 and final type approval documentation took place in 1983 (http://memim.com/sig-sg-550.html) long before H&K started G36 design, even according to the Wiki.

Tiredcleangate3 (talk) 21:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And, the Ramline magazines for the Ruger 10/22 predate both the HK and the SIG. The article is not about who gets the credit. They are only examples. Also, the references do not support you claims.--RAF910 (talk) 15:43, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Holder, Magazine T3-A1

Can anyone confirm/cite from an official source the "Holder, Magazine T3-A1" part? I haven't seen one ever referenced in official texts. Thanks. --Surv1v4l1st ^{▌Talk|Contribs▌} 23:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The "Holder, Magazine T3-A1" was experimental. The capital "T" = Trail. The Army never officially adopted it. Although, it was made and sold commercially. A simple Google search will find that they are widely sold.--RAF910 (talk) 16:01, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did a little digging and found an unofficial source that references. I've added it to the article, but if it's not valid, please revert it. It does mention the T3-A1 by name, and this article seems to be nearly an exact quote of the source. Finally, if this source isn't a good fit for Wikipedia, I'd appreciate feedback; I'm a newbie at this, and want to make Wikipedia better, not make work for others. Thanks! EducatedRedneck (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

L-shaped Jungle Style

I've seen a few images - mainly from the 1970s, and mainly in the context of Israeli service - of Uzi magazines held in an L-shaped bracket. One magazine is inserted as normal, the other magazine is attached to the bottom of the first at right-angles, pointing forwards (if full) or backwards (if empty). e.g. this stock image of supposedly an Israeli secret service agent, or this image of an Israeli soldier during the Yom Kippur war. It seems widespread enough to have been standard doctrine - but I can't find a good source. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 19:43, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 May 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle style → Coupled magazine – Jungle style is very broad and can reference a bunch of other things outside of ordnance. On topic, however, it is also not very common today, more common names instead being coupled magazine or jungle magazine. Blockhaj (talk) 14:20, 4 May 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as per WP:COMMONNAME - of the 7 sources currently cited in this article, none of them make any mention of the term 'coupled magazine', nor the other proposed alternative of jungle magazine, it is always rendered specifically as jungle style, but I remain indifferent to changing it to "jungle style magazine" for grammatical reasons. Loafiewa (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Five out of the 7 sources are WWII books. These do not reflect modern weapon lingo.

Every retailer uses the term magazine coupler:

https://terrang.se/se/maglink-mag-coupler-pmag-30m3-black/
https://www.brownells.se/Gun-Parts-Tools-Accessories/Rifle-Magazines/Magazine-Couplers-Holders
https://magpul.com/maglinkcoupler-pmag30genm2moe-genm3.html?mp_global_color=118
http://www.louiscandell.com/pdf/CDNN2011-3.pdf
Subject video by Chris "Dutch" Moyer, retired 1st SFOD-D Sergeant Major (see the thumbnail for example): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UmKnYUY998
Dual Defense: Why Coupled Magazines Aren’t Just For Competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sE7oMPHZGU

Blockhaj (talk) 17:24, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as per Loafiewa. If "Jungle style" is also used for other topics, that's what disambig is for. Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Per WP:COMMONTERM.--Surv1v4l1st ^{╠Talk║Contribs╣} 03:37, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.