I am going to keep this simple. Always thought about doing side jobs but stayed away from them. Recently a fellow worker was telling me how he is getting $95 an hour on weekend jobs. I was told that $85 was really a fair take. Anyhow, I have kids and house blah blah. Need the money. I am seriously thinking about doing ads in Craigslist or something. Anyone do side jobs now? I am looking for weekend only maybe nights if I can handle it. Additionally looking to this to help my career and get more challenging situations and experience.

-Hours of operations

-Web site?

-How far would you drive?

-Customers come to you?

-Money up front? or after?

-Parts needed to you require payment first?

-(shudder) Paying taxes? on earnings?

-Anything else to suggest?

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Best way to do side jobs and have it truly be a side job is through word of mouth. CraigsList ads will give you nothing but headaches, people will want the world and not want to spend any money

If you have a healthy network, put the word out that you’re looking for work on the side or probe to see if there is work out there to do in your area

I would mainly charge just for your labor and have them buy the hardware direct, if this is on the side you don’t want to go through the hassle of becoming a reseller for minimal purchases, and if you don’t you won’t be able to provide great prices to your prospective clients

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Make sure you comply with your responsibilities WRT tax. I know all about the UK system if anybody has trouble sleeping.

Set the price that works for you - you need to be motivated to do it, and not working all your free hours for a pittance. It’s better to work 2 hours at $100ph than 4 hours at $50.

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In my younger days I would put ads in the local free newspaper. I would probably still do that instead of CL because of the spam/scammers. For the last several years I teach at a tech school. It’s rewarding and while the pay isn’t too high it’s pretty sweet side gig. And my future employee pool is always stocked.

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Teach at a tech school? How did you get that gig? That might be interesting.

-Hours of operations

Unless you have regular days off that never change, and are willing to give them up, do not post hours. Keep it by appointment only.

-Web site?

You could post a strictly informational page, listing area(s) of service, contact info and maybe a “contact me” page. Up to you. It may help to increase your exposure, but you also need to keep in mind that unless you are going to use some sort of web based ticket an/or payment system, it is going to sit there and never/rarely used.

-How far would you drive?

Most solo’s keep it to 1 hour (round trip), but it really varies by area, traffic, expenses, etc.

-Customers come to you?

Only if you do not mind your home life being up for review by anyone passing through your living space.

-Money up front? or after?

Payment due at time of service rendered, which in most cases is after. As a new solo, you probably are not going to want to get into having a lawyer draw up service agreements, so you are taking the risk of non-payment on yourself.

-Parts needed to you require payment first?

Since big box tech stores started spreading out 25 years ago, most “PC Shops” can not compete on either parts or systems. It is even more challenging these days with internet purchasing. Most solo’s only “consult” on parts, leaving the purchasing up to the EU. Stocking parts is expensive, especially with constantly fluctuating prices. Also, even flogging off used parts means you have to track sales, taxes, etc for L/S/F reporting.

-(shudder) Paying taxes? on earnings?

This varies by municipality (city/township/etc) and state, but then you also have the IRS on top of everything else.

-Anything else to suggest?

Talk to a lawyer and an accountant, and also look into professional liability insurance. The more time you put into it, to more valuable your time becomes. Since you are investing in yourself, it would be wise to protect your investment as much as you can.

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I just applied for a part time instructor position, did a sample lecture for a small crowd and that’s it.

I did full time for a while but missed being in the field (and the wages) so I’ve been part time for years now.

Same here… (not currently) … I used to teach evening classes at a local private college: Microsoft MCSA & Wireless Technology (not simply Wi-Fi). I became the Computer Systems department head, too! The college went out of business, something about Internal Revenue Service issues…

@mikeswanson6020

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I had a site for a while but it didnt really generate much, most of my clients are from word of mouth. I charge a fixed amount for various services like virus removal or upgrading PCs ext… The only hourly I charge is for training. My clients are all residential for commercial i would do an hourly charge.

Keep good records and pay your taxes, you dont want to be on the bad side of the IRS they are NOT fun to deal with and it can take years to resolve the issue assuming you are not in fault and the whole time you will be getting collection calls from them… for years…

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I guess it is time for me to see what might be out there. I believe it is something I would enjoy. P/T at first.

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Thanks everyone, These are great ideas and suggestions! I still have some more thinking to do. Guess I am still not sure the headache would be worth it during my free time. Long term I can see looking into a lawyer and such. I am just looking to get a little extra money to finish school and bills and such. Loud and clear just doing word of mouth for asking around.

I did side jobs for a while. Worked with a couple small businesses as their regular IT guy. Made sure they knew I have a 9 to 5 job that is priority number 1. My time would have to be after hours or on weekends depending on my availability.

I registered as a business and received a tax id number from the IRS. Was able to deduct expenses for portions of my cell phone bill, internet, hardware purchases used for work, mileage, etc.

Had to report that income because its the law, and because the customers were reporting it on their taxes.

I found that the folks that typically come after “side-work” consultants are the ones that refuse to open their wallets. They tend to use outdated hardware and software and want you to keep that old stuff running as long as humanly possible.

Don’t sell yourself too cheap either. Your time is valuable. Especially your time after hours and on weekends.

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Id rather suck it up and go work for a company and do repairs. Side jobs(personal) lead to too much liability and risk. It can also be hard to find clients that will pay the money you want/should charge.

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Hell no. My one job sometimes feels like two. So what if I have a family and could use the extra cash. I might as well divorce my wife and just send a child support check every month. There’s absolutely no difference between that and being an absentee father and husband.

There’s more to being a provider than bringing food home. Even a damn bird can do that. Families need emotional support too. And don’t give me that “quality time” bullshit. What other application does “quality time” apply to? Nothing else. It doesn’t work for anything. It’s just something invented by absentee fathers to ease the guilt of just being a sperm donor that drops a bag of money on the porch and then goes back to work. I wonder if you just show up to work a couple of hours and then leave early and tell your boss that you spent “quality time” on the job if he’ll buy it. Seriously doubt it.

If I ever get to the point where I need more money, then it’s time to qualify for and look for a better paying job.

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I’d love a side job but after a ~55+ hours / week I don’t have the power to work a second job I don’t think.

I already have a tough time getting my ass down to study / play with stuff for complete my MCSA.

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I find myself in a similar situation and have been working on getting things set up the way I imagine it should be. I figured if I were to end up with more customers than planned for, things might become unmanageable so I’m setting up mine as if it were a proper business… Registered business name, Agreement forms, set up a website to manage jobs and clients (Using Vtiger CRM). PS: My current clients are referred to me by friends and previous clients.

Me Currently…

-Hours of operations : Weekends

-Web site? : Yes : Wordpress/vTiger CRM

-How far would you drive? 1hour maybe

-Customers come to you? No (Jobs done on site or pickup/delivery)

-Money up front? or after? After

-Parts needed to you require payment first? Yes

-(shudder) Paying taxes? on earnings? Probably should (Haven’t sorted that one out myself)

-Anything else to suggest? Treat your side job as if it were a real business, it might grow… I also choose to charge per job rather than by the hour, still working on fixed fee for each service and adding support contracts…

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This makes sense if your long term plan is to transition to self-employment. But this isn’t sustainable as a permanent second job if you have a family.

I think this is one of the biggies. Make it an official business entity, possibly an LLC, to protect your personal assets.

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ITSlave definitely has a point. Starting a side business can get you extra money but it also eats away at your extra time more than you would expect. It can be disheartening to get away from my day job and realize I still have a commitment for my side job to work on… and it may be even more disheartening for those that want to spend time with you but can’t because you’re working from home or driving out to meet someone.

IT as a side business can be tricky in general. I have a small base of ongoing clients but I’ve already had to do some juggling when one of them ran into a problem while I was at my day job and tried to call me about it… tech problems don’t wait for the weekend, and when they happen your clients won’t want to wait for you to have time to fix it. I remember being on the other side of this before I went into IT, trying (and failing) to get in touch with our “IT Guy” when our email went down. I ended up googling my way into a solution myself, but he definitely lost out on some hours there.

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Yeah, just makes me feel all grown up and stuff lol #real world #being a grownup